Fare rules "LH ARCSW" / "LX ARCSW"

simonxyz

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Varför kan jag inkludera sträckan MMX-ARN i fare rule "LH ARCSW" men inte "LX ARCSW"? När jag lägger dem bredvid varandra ser "LH ARCSW" och "LX ARCSW" mycket lika ut.



Jag har sökt på många datum med ITA matrix och på alla finns både ARN-FRA-HKG och MMX-ARN-FRA-HKG med "LH ARCSW" men bara ARN-ZRH-HKG (inte MMX-ARN-ZRH-HKG) med "LX ARCSW".





"LH ARCSW"



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"LX ARCSW"




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Både Swiss (LX) och Lufthansa (LH) erbjuder MMX-HKG

ARCSW LH A Round-Trip 35120(SEK) F V / 12M

ARCSW LX A Round-Trip 35120(SEK) F V / 12M



Men routing regler för LX är väldigt märkliga. Kanske @Dr. Miles vet?

**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING MMA-HKG/LX EF-14DEC18 DIS-INDEF

**ADDON ORG MMA EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002

**PUBLISHED STO-HKG EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002



LH regler:

**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING MMA-HKG/LH EF-14DEC18 DIS-INDEF

**ADDON ORG MMA EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002

**PUBLISHED STO-HKG EURG/4 PUBLISHED ROUTING 5002



/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT

1. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/

GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-SIN/SHA/

SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LH/

KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/BI/9W/3K-HKG

2. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/

GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-SHA/HKG/

BJS-LH/CX/CA-HKG

3. MMA-WF/SK/LH-TOS/STO/OSL/GOT/CPH/BLL/BGO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/

GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-LH-HKG



Min tolkning är att det inte finns någon routing publicerat för LX. Ring Swiss eller Lufthansa för att boka och kolla med dom.
 
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"Most bang for the buck" i mitt tycke är denna ARN-SIN med Swiss/Lufthansa

ARCSW LH A Round-Trip 37405(SEK) F V / 12M

ARCSW LX A Round-Trip 37405(SEK) F V / 12M



Anledningar inkluderar:



STOPOVERS UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON

THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS.




Lufthansa routing

/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT

1. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LH-SIN/SHA/SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/

PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LH/KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/9W/3K-SIN

2. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LH-SIN

3. STO-LH-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LH-BKK-TG/SQ/LH-SIN




Swiss routing

/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/

MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT

1. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LX-SIN/SHA/SGN/JKT/HKT/HKG/BKK/BJS-WE/VN/TG/SQ/PR/

PG/OZ/NH/MI/MH/LX/KA/JQ/HX/GA/CX/CI/CA/BR/BL/9W/3K-SIN

2. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LX-SIN

3. STO-LX-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/DUS/CGN-ZRH/VIE/MUC/GVA/FRA/

DUS/CGN-LX-BKK-TG/SQ/LX-SIN



En bra rutt är t.ex. ARN-ZRH(LX)-FRA(LX)-HKG(LH)-stopover-SIN(SQ F). Jag har åkt denna med SQ F HKG-SIN-HKG ombord en B77W. Det ingår stopover ut och hem. Shanghai är också en rutt där SQ finns med B77W. Det finns tyvärr begränsningar kopplat till alla A388 flighter inom Asien med SQ



Alternate Airline (SINGAPORE AIRLINES (SQ))

>$LB20/SQ

020 STOSIN 07MAR19 LX SEK 37405 ARCSW STAY- V/12MBK-A

FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES

-------- ---------------------- ----------

ARCSW FIRST CLASS EXCURSION FARES A

ARCSW BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

ARCSW FOR ADULT



BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER: SQ

VIA SQ NO BOOKING CODE DATA EXISTS FLTS

1000-9999

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ

VIA SQ L NOT PERMITTED FLTS 0001-0999

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0308

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0317

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0321

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0322

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM CDG-SIN FLT 0335

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-CDG FLT 0336

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM DEL-SIN FLT 0403

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-DEL FLT 0406

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM BOM-SIN FLT 0423

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-BOM FLT 0424

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-OSA FLT 0618

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM OSA-SIN FLT 0619

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-BJS FLT 0802

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM BJS-SIN FLT 0807

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-SHA FLT 0830

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SHA-SIN FLT 0833

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-HKG FLT 0860

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM HKG-SIN FLT 0863

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LAX-NRT FLT 0011

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM NRT-SIN FLT 0011

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM LAX-SIN FLT 0011

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-NRT FLT 0012

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM NRT-LAX FLT 0012

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM SIN-LAX FLT 0012

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0026

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM FRA-JFK FLT 0026

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ F/A NOT PERMITTED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0026

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED FROM SIN-JFK FLT 0026

IF VIA LX A- FARES

VIA SQ A REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Z REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED

IF VIA LX ALL FIRST

VIA SQ Y REQUIRED

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-MEL FLT 0217

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM MEL-SIN FLT 0218

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SYD FLT 0221

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SYD-SIN FLT 0222

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SYD FLT 0231

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SYD-SIN FLT 0232

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-AKL FLT 0285

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM AKL-SIN FLT 0286

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0308

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0317

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM LON-SIN FLT 0321

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-LON FLT 0322

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM ZRH-SIN FLT 0345

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-ZRH FLT 0346

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM DEL-SIN FLT 0403

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-DEL FLT 0406

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM BOM-SIN FLT 0423

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-BOM FLT 0424

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-OSA FLT 0618

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM OSA-SIN FLT 0619

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM TYO-SIN FLT 0637

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-TYO FLT 0638

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-BJS FLT 0802

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM BJS-SIN FLT 0807

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-SHA FLT 0830

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SHA-SIN FLT 0833

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-HKG FLT 0860

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM HKG-SIN FLT 0863

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM JFK-FRA FLT 0025

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM FRA-SIN FLT 0025

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM JFK-SIN FLT 0025

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-FRA FLT 0026

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM FRA-JFK FLT 0026

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED FROM SIN-JFK FLT 0026

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ A REQUIRED WHEN OFFERED

IF VIA ** ALL CARRIERS EXCEPT SQ ALL FIRST

VIA SQ D REQUIRED

VIA SQ K REQUIRED FLTS 0001-0999
 
Senator skrev:En bra rutt är t.ex. ARN-ZRH(LX)-FRA(LX)-HKG(Lufthansa)-stopover-SIN(SQ F).Klicka för att utvidga...
Det där ju grymt. Knäcka SIN och HKG

Bör rassla in bra med poäng med ju.

Frugan fyller jämnt nästa år men kommer nog tycka det är för mycket flygande för långweekend.



Kan man anta liknande pris från CPH? Alternativt MMX?
 
squeezen skrev:Det där ju grymt. Knäcka SIN och HKGBör rassla in bra med poäng med ju.Frugan fyller jämnt nästa år men kommer nog tycka det är för mycket flygande för långweekend.Kan man anta liknande pris från CPH? Alternativt MMX?Klicka för att utvidga...


Kolla ExpertFlyer. Du kan också ha stopover i BKK men det finns ingen F med SQ eller BKK på rutten. SIN och PVG har SQ F med B77W på båda.
 
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