nyfikengrau
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Kan detta betyda att USA öppnar upp?
- Thread starter bridgeman
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Som sagt, skrev just efter ankomst.
Din gissning är lika god som någon annans, men jag antar att det är innan halva november passerat, för då skulle det inte vara i början på november. Min personliga förhoppning är att det verkställs den första veckan i november.Airman skrev:Någon som törs gissa på när "early November" är? 1:a Nov? 6:e? 14:e??Direktöversatt blir det ju "tidiga november/tidigt i november", men min fråga är mer om det i Amerika räknas strikt som 1:a nov, eller mer vagt som, nån gång första halvan av nov."Frågar för en vän" som har resa bokad den 6:eKlicka för att utvidga...
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NyfikenGrau skrev:Som sagt, skrev just efter ankomst.Klicka för att utvidga...
Sorry. Jag har uppenbarligen tappat läsförmågan. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Bästa energigivartråden på länge! Förstår att ingen konkret information kommer komma hit på ett tag, men det är så roligt att se allas förväntan. Vi har en befintlig resa bokad till oktober, men det känns helt okej att boka om nät man faktiskt har något att tro på, på riktigt denna gång.data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
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Resetokig skrev:Bästa energigivartråden på länge! Förstår att ingen konkret information kommer komma hit på ett tag, men det är så roligt att se allas förväntan. Vi har en befintlig resa bokad till oktober, men det känns helt okej att boka om nät man faktiskt har något att tro på, på riktigt denna gång.Klicka för att utvidga...
Jag är lite försiktigt optimistisk. Men har allt bokat för en resa i december (kryssning med Norwegian Joy), så man hoppas ju att allt går vägen.
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Jag tror mer det handlar om hur många doser tillverkaren har angett i sin behandlingsmetod. I dagsläget är det 2 för de flesta vaccin. Att vissa länder ger 3 sprutor har inte så mycket att göra med om man är fullvaccinerad eller inte.Cristoffer Cedergren skrev:Tänker = tror, gissar.Mina gissningar bygger på senaste dagarnas mediarapportering och att FHOM skriver så här:"Nästa år kommer sannolikt en större andel av befolkningen att erbjudas en påfyllnadsdos av vaccin mot covid-19 men omfattningen är i dagsläget oklar."Tredje dos mot covid-19 troligen nästa år — FolkhälsomyndighetenUSA ligger ju några steg före oss, och där kommer det som du skrev ges påfyllnad efter ca 8 månader.Källa:Tredje dos rekommenderas i USA - Nyheter (Ekot) | Sveriges RadioMin gissningar är att USA kommer under nästa år ställa krav på att besökare har samma antal doser som de rekommenderar sin egen befolkning. Men det kommer blir en "lucka" här under vintern när det räcker med två doser, så passa på att åka!Klicka för att utvidga...
Edit: med betoning på tror.
Allt är ju föränderligt men så här definierar CDC "Fully vaccinated":
In general, people are considered fully vaccinated:
2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine
If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.
Så det indikerar ju precis som Mattias skriver ovan att förändras behandlingsmetoden så förändras definitionen.
In general, people are considered fully vaccinated:
2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine
If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.
Så det indikerar ju precis som Mattias skriver ovan att förändras behandlingsmetoden så förändras definitionen.
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Homer
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Ang. 3:e spruta, detta är vad som sades av pressekreteraren
Q And just a quick one on boosters: Why did the President say in August, “Just remember, as a simple rule: Eight months after your second shot, get a booster shot” if there is not enough data to support that for the general population?
MS. PSAKI: Well, what the President [Surgeon General] also said is that, “I want to be very clear, the plan is pending the FDA conducting in an independent evaluation of the safety and effectiveness of a third dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and the CDC’s Advisory Committee.”
We are right now in the week of September 20th. The advisory committee is meeting on Thursday. We’ve seen some recommendations that we felt was a step forward in providing more protection to people across the country. And we’ll wait for that process to play out.
Our objective and our role is to ensure we have the capacity, the number of shots to provide them to the American people.
Q Sixteen out of eighteen FDA advisors say there is not the science. The President talks about “following the science.” Is this a case of him getting ahead on the science?
MS. PSAKI: Well, first of all, I think what you heard Dr. Collins and Dr. Fauci convey yesterday is that this is going to be an ongoing process.
I would remind you that the percentage of individuals, at this point, who would be eligible to get a booster are largely people over 65, because those are people who would have had the second dose six months ago.
If we’re looking at when we’re going to have available data — that’s what the CDC and the FDA looks at — they need enough data to make assessments. No one is suggesting that there will never be boosters. We are suggesting that there needs to be a process to be seen through for when boosters should be approved and when a broader swath of the population is eligible.
senare:
Q — on behalf of people who look at what happened last week and were disappointed. They may be six-plus months out from their second shot and they want a booster shot today; they don’t want to wait. Can you explain the process to those people —
MS. PSAKI: Sure.
Q — and address their concerns?
And in particular, get at the question of accountability, because it was the eight health experts who surround the President, who are best known to the country — perhaps most trusted by the country — who suggested that this would be the week. Who were these people who were deciding that it shouldn’t be this week or that shouldn’t be people under the age of 65?
MS. PSAKI: Well, even — those eight health experts who, you’re right, put out the statement in August based on data that we had — that they had available to them as health experts suggesting the waning influence — or the waning impact, I should say — the waning effectiveness of vaccines, they felt they had a responsibility to make their recommendations, their views public to the American people. That’s exactly what they did.
There’s also a process in place for a reason. And I would say — I think any of us would say — to anyone who’s frustrated or who wants to have their booster shot now: That process is in place for a reason so that you can trust what the final recommendation and the final outcome is. And it includes — obviously, last week, there was — the FDA had their own review and their own process, a formal meeting of the Advisory Committee. ACIP is meeting this week.
But this is not the last meeting. I think that’s important for people to understand, and Dr. Fauci referenced this yesterday. There will be additional data. There will be additional data from probably Moderna, from J&J, others in the coming weeks. There’ll be more data for people who are younger than 65. They will look at all of that.
This is an ongoing process. This is not a decision that there will never be boosters for others. This is the first step in a process — a positive one, in our view — about protecting more people.
And — but it is also important to keep the FDA as the gold standard and ensure that process proceeds so people can trust their recommendations.
Q — have one foreign policy question for you. Now that the FDA’s vaccine advisors have recommended boosters for people 65 and up, how soon do you expect President Biden to get his booster shot? And will he do so on camera?
MS. PSAKI: He will do so, and he will do so on camera. I don’t have a date for you exactly.
Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, September 20, 2021 | The White House
Q And just a quick one on boosters: Why did the President say in August, “Just remember, as a simple rule: Eight months after your second shot, get a booster shot” if there is not enough data to support that for the general population?
MS. PSAKI: Well, what the President [Surgeon General] also said is that, “I want to be very clear, the plan is pending the FDA conducting in an independent evaluation of the safety and effectiveness of a third dose of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and the CDC’s Advisory Committee.”
We are right now in the week of September 20th. The advisory committee is meeting on Thursday. We’ve seen some recommendations that we felt was a step forward in providing more protection to people across the country. And we’ll wait for that process to play out.
Our objective and our role is to ensure we have the capacity, the number of shots to provide them to the American people.
Q Sixteen out of eighteen FDA advisors say there is not the science. The President talks about “following the science.” Is this a case of him getting ahead on the science?
MS. PSAKI: Well, first of all, I think what you heard Dr. Collins and Dr. Fauci convey yesterday is that this is going to be an ongoing process.
I would remind you that the percentage of individuals, at this point, who would be eligible to get a booster are largely people over 65, because those are people who would have had the second dose six months ago.
If we’re looking at when we’re going to have available data — that’s what the CDC and the FDA looks at — they need enough data to make assessments. No one is suggesting that there will never be boosters. We are suggesting that there needs to be a process to be seen through for when boosters should be approved and when a broader swath of the population is eligible.
senare:
Q — on behalf of people who look at what happened last week and were disappointed. They may be six-plus months out from their second shot and they want a booster shot today; they don’t want to wait. Can you explain the process to those people —
MS. PSAKI: Sure.
Q — and address their concerns?
And in particular, get at the question of accountability, because it was the eight health experts who surround the President, who are best known to the country — perhaps most trusted by the country — who suggested that this would be the week. Who were these people who were deciding that it shouldn’t be this week or that shouldn’t be people under the age of 65?
MS. PSAKI: Well, even — those eight health experts who, you’re right, put out the statement in August based on data that we had — that they had available to them as health experts suggesting the waning influence — or the waning impact, I should say — the waning effectiveness of vaccines, they felt they had a responsibility to make their recommendations, their views public to the American people. That’s exactly what they did.
There’s also a process in place for a reason. And I would say — I think any of us would say — to anyone who’s frustrated or who wants to have their booster shot now: That process is in place for a reason so that you can trust what the final recommendation and the final outcome is. And it includes — obviously, last week, there was — the FDA had their own review and their own process, a formal meeting of the Advisory Committee. ACIP is meeting this week.
But this is not the last meeting. I think that’s important for people to understand, and Dr. Fauci referenced this yesterday. There will be additional data. There will be additional data from probably Moderna, from J&J, others in the coming weeks. There’ll be more data for people who are younger than 65. They will look at all of that.
This is an ongoing process. This is not a decision that there will never be boosters for others. This is the first step in a process — a positive one, in our view — about protecting more people.
And — but it is also important to keep the FDA as the gold standard and ensure that process proceeds so people can trust their recommendations.
Q — have one foreign policy question for you. Now that the FDA’s vaccine advisors have recommended boosters for people 65 and up, how soon do you expect President Biden to get his booster shot? And will he do so on camera?
MS. PSAKI: He will do so, and he will do so on camera. I don’t have a date for you exactly.
Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, September 20, 2021 | The White House
Någon som sett någonting i närtid kring hur de kommer se på Astras vaccin?Hubert skrev:Allt är ju föränderligt men så här definierar CDC "Fully vaccinated":In general, people are considered fully vaccinated:2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccineIf you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking allprecautionsuntil you are fully vaccinated.Så det indikerar ju precis som Mattias skriver ovan att förändras behandlingsmetoden så förändras definitionen.Klicka för att utvidga...
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pswe skrev:Någon som sett någonting i närtid kring hur de kommer se på Astras vaccin?Klicka för att utvidga...
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Homer
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EU says people vaccinated with AstraZeneca shots should be able to travel to U.S. | Reuters
BRUSSELS, Sept 21 (Reuters) - The European Commission said on Tuesday it would make sense for the United States to allow travel by people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca (AZN.L) COVID-19 shots, although existing U.S. guidance already authorises those travellers.
"We believe the AstraZeneca vaccine is safe," Eric Mamer, a spokesperson for the EU Commission, told a news conference.
"From our point of view, obviously it would make sense for people who have been vaccinated with AstraZeneca to be able to travel," the spokesperson added, noting that this, however, was a decision for the U.S. authorities.
A spokeswoman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that it currently considers people to be fully vaccinated, and therefore able to travel by air to the U.S., if they have received any of the FDA-authorized vaccines or shots approved by the World Health Organization, which include AstraZeneca's.
BRUSSELS, Sept 21 (Reuters) - The European Commission said on Tuesday it would make sense for the United States to allow travel by people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca (AZN.L) COVID-19 shots, although existing U.S. guidance already authorises those travellers.
"We believe the AstraZeneca vaccine is safe," Eric Mamer, a spokesperson for the EU Commission, told a news conference.
"From our point of view, obviously it would make sense for people who have been vaccinated with AstraZeneca to be able to travel," the spokesperson added, noting that this, however, was a decision for the U.S. authorities.
A spokeswoman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that it currently considers people to be fully vaccinated, and therefore able to travel by air to the U.S., if they have received any of the FDA-authorized vaccines or shots approved by the World Health Organization, which include AstraZeneca's.
chrillchen
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Vi har planerad resa från Zürich till Miami den 4e november, känns som det kan bli på det berömda håret
SAS mailade mig idag angående jubileumspriser på resor med USA från 1:a November 2021. Så det verkar i alla fall som om SAS tror att det skall bli öppning ganska direkt i November... Och som alla vet har SAS aldrig haft fel, så då kan man vara lugn! Lika säkert som ett brev med PostNord data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
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Yes!
Nu känns min LH F resa som jag bokade tredje veckan i november som möjligt //emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji106.png
Då kan det bli kalkon och svart fredag
Nu känns min LH F resa som jag bokade tredje veckan i november som möjligt //emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji106.png
Då kan det bli kalkon och svart fredag
Senator skrev:Det stämmer. Dock kan du inte åka via USA till Jamaica men måste åka via t.ex Canada.Du kan också intressant nog välja hänga i Serbien, Kroatien eller Turkiet i 14 dagar och åka direkt därifrån.En annan vanlig väg har varit Mexico.Klicka för att utvidga...
Skulle du kunna berätta hur lite mer eller länka mer info om att jag kan åka till Turkiet va där i 14 dagar sen åka till USA.
Hade uppskattat det, då jag verkligen vill åka till USA. Tack!
Renato skrev:Skulle du kunna berätta hur lite mer eller länka mer info om att jag kan åka till Turkiet va där i 14 dagar sen åka till USA.Hade uppskattat det, då jag verkligen vill åka till USA. Tack!Klicka för att utvidga...
Det finns ingenting publikt och officiellt som säger "åk via Turkiet". Det skulle kanske inte vara så smart data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Här är det som finns officiellt:
Travelers Prohibited from Entry to the United States | CDC
"With specific exceptions, several Presidential proclamations suspend and limit entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of noncitizens who were physically present within the following countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. For a full list of exceptions, please refer to the relevant proclamations in the links below".
Sen ser du listan. Där finns inte Kroatien, Serbien eller Turkiet med. Hellre inte México. Det innebär i praktiken att man kan åka (direkt?) från dessa länder till USA efter 14 dagar. Om mellanlandning i tex. Frankfurt skulle räknas som "physically present" är för mig oklart.
Med tanke på att USA öppnar upp igen om 5 - 8 veckor känns det i mitt tycke lite onödigt att sitta två veckor i Turkiet om man inte har bra med stålar och tid tillövers förstås data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Senator skrev:Det finns ingenting publikt och officiellt som säger "åk via Turkiet". Det skulle kanske inte vara så smartHär är det som finns officiellt:Travelers Prohibited from Entry to the United States | CDC"With specific exceptions, several Presidential proclamations suspend and limit entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of noncitizens who were physically present within the following countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. For a full list of exceptions, please refer to the relevant proclamations in the links below".Sen ser du listan. Där finns inte Kroatien, Serbien eller Turkiet med. Hellre inte México. Det innebär i praktiken att man kan åka (direkt?) från dessa länder till USA efter 14 dagar. Om mellanlandning i tex. Frankfurt skulle räknas som "physically present" är för mig oklart.Med tanke på att USA öppnar upp igen om 5 - 8 veckor känns det i mitt tycke lite onödigt att sitta två veckor i Turkiet om man inte har bra med stålar och tid tillövers förståsKlicka för att utvidga...
hehe hade varit roligt om det var så =)
Okej då är jag med. Jag reser ofta till Istanbul så det är inga problem. men dock tänker jag antigen i Turkiet eller om man åker till cancun och är där i 14 dagar sen den 15 åker man till Usa för att senare åka hem till Sverige. Jag hitta faktiskt en resa idag i first class också.
Måste man ta Vaccinet om man tar den rutten?
Vad tycker du om det förslaget?
Tack =)
golfkillen
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Oavsett vilken rutt du tar så är det en bra idé att ta vaccinet. Man kan till och med sträcka sig så långt att säga att oavsett om du reser eller ej så är det en bra idé att vaccinera sig…Renato skrev:hehe hade varit roligt om det var så =)Okej då är jag med. Jag reser ofta till Istanbul så det är inga problem. men dock tänker jag antigen i Turkiet eller om man åker till cancun och är där i 14 dagar sen den 15 åker man till Usa för att senare åka hem till Sverige. Jag hitta faktiskt en resa idag i first class också.Måste man ta Vaccinet om man tar den rutten?Vad tycker du om det förslaget?Tack =)Klicka för att utvidga...